ENVIRONMENTAL CONTROL
Sorry for not posting to much. Has been a busy weekend.
EDIT: why all the votes on me? I mean I already explained in my earlier post that I wouldn’t be that active today.
I should perhaps retract my vote on Krishna since he is at least cooperating with the plan.
Please do! I don’t see what I have done to become as suspicious as either Terran or Cosmos
The arguing about who was meant to repair what went on all the way until lunchtime. The surviving members of the crew yelling at King_Cosmos for failing to turn up to his assigned job; no one seemed happy that he had in fact spent the night risking his life to repair the power system for them. After lunch TerranAmbassador cornered Xamino and shouted at the cryogenic technician for slacking off his repair duties. Eventually a new roster was drawn up and assignments were handed out to the crew, no mistakes this time!
Discussion finally turned to what to do about the murder of Cybercritic. It was clear that Topperfalkon had not been working alone and there must be another psyhcopath amongst them… The_Sane narrowed his eyes at TerranAmbassador, “You seemed pretty angry at Xamino… psychopathically angry I’d say!”. Several people around the room nodded and mumbled their agreement. A few other people stepped forward and shoved King_Cosmos and Krishna into the middle of the room but it wasn’t enough - it was decided that TerranAmbassador must be the other wolf! Pendrokar and The_Sane grabbed some frozen mackerel from a nearby storage container and beat him into unconsciousness…
TerranAmbassador came to and groaned at the aches and pains. As he sat up a clipboard fell off his chest, “What’s this?”… it was the standard instructions for surviving exposure to vacuum after sudden decompression. His eyes widened and he looked up to see the airlock decompression countdown on the wall showing under a minute left! “No, STOP! I’m not a psychopath! Look, I’ve been repairing the hull for years, I can tell you details of all the jobs I’ve done to keep the ship safe… one of you has to…”
The breath exploded out of his lungs and a unstoppable force pushed TerranAmbassador backwards out into space. Tiny blood vessels all over his body exploded and liquids began boiling from every exposed surface of his body… but he didn’t care, the view of the stars was even more incredible than any view he’d had through a suit whilst working on the hull. Just as he was beginning to lose sight as his eyeballs boil Terran was annihilated by exhaust of the ISS Relatively Fast
It Is Now Nighttime
TerranAmbassador has been lynched
The night will be 24 hours, starting from when this post was created
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Cise arrived in the Cryogenic control room early in the morning feeling absolutely exhausted. He had spent the entire night working on the deflector shields and now he had to perform some ongoing duties on the cryogenic control system. First things first check the cargo: 10,000 prisoners in cold storage. Automated health checks were performed on everyone in cryogenic storage overnight and everything seemed to be ok, helium flow was stable and no more prisoners had escaped. Excellent.
He turned away from the cargo status screen towards the system status screen. The aft helium tanks were half empty and showing lots of red warnings, but that was expected after they’d vented into space for an entire day and then been patched up. One of the forward tanks was showing a slight overheat warning, that was weird… He pulled up the cameras for tank 7 and looked about. No obvious damage to the outside of the tank, no fires, no leaks. He switched to internal view and gasped in horror: two arms were floating in the liquid helium! He flicked over to the other tanks to discover legs in tank 2, a torso in tank 8 and a head in tank 1. He zoomed in the camera and saw the frozen look of shock on Enginish face looking back.
Just as the crew was gathering in the cryogenic monitoring room, near the secondary environmental controls an all too familiar sound echoed through the ship; a deep thrum followed by a slight shudder - the defence guns had shot down a piece of debris. A few seconds later three shots fired in rapid succession, then everyone was knocked to their feet as the entire ship lurched to the side. Klaxons flared and emergency pressure bulkheads snapped shut. Lomsor, who was standing near a system status readout, shouted out “The power grid, the point defence array and the medical bay have all been damaged by debris!”.
It Is Now Day 3
Enginish has been murdered by the psychopaths
The day will be 48 hours, starting from when this post was created
Power Grid Damaged
Point Defence Array Damaged
Medical Bay Damaged
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Hey everyone, I’d like to introduce you all to Bob. Bob is a manifestation of my paranoia, and he has some theories. Introduce yourself Bob.
“…”
Thank you Bob.
On day 2 I said I would reveal the full details of Cryo if one of us died, or if one of us was a suspected wolf. I later reasoned that if wolves did not already know (Ark and Cise being human) then I basically invited the wolves to kill one of us to get the full details, and me being the most vocal would be the likely target. So I asked to be put in cryo, and if by chance I blocked a night kill I would not only be confirmed as human but it would also make everyone else in cryo seem fairly trustworthy…
Then I got paranoid.
My reason for suspecting @Arkenbrien may be a little weak, but paranoia is a wonderful thing. In my cryo request I wrote this:
Sure enough Ark answered with a youtube video of exactly that… but he made absolutely no comment on my request. It was another 6 hours before he came back and agreed to it. To me this smelt like a wolf checking in with his friends and deciding how to respond first. While Cise only agreed if Ark agreed.
More importantly though I would also like to ask @Cise something… While you never formally agreed to my idea of keeping details quiet, what did you hope to achieve by offering details of our system in return for details on another? This disturbing information was relayed to me by a third party, so take that as you will, but it matches up with the “testing the waters”* that you admitted to in the cryo thread (*probing) . And guess who it was that Cise was (apparently) probing for information… Enginish.
If I’m getting played by the third party then it’ll only blow up in his face, so I’m cautiously trusting of him.
As to the full details of the Cryo Storage system ability. Each night we can vote to place a player into cryo sleep during that night or the following day. They are out of the game, they cannot be killed but neither can they repair or perform any other action during that phase. If cryo is damaged while a player is inside then that player is stuck in cryo until it is repaired. If it goes critical the stuck player dies.
This means I sacrificed my chance at a repair last night (with Enginish also dead that leaves only 3 players on Propulsion), and I also took a bit of a gamble. If Cryo had been damaged while I was in it I would obviously have lost control over it, and would not have been able to gain a new role until at least day 5.
I can confirm this, through conversation with Cise.
Also, Cise accidentally told me what the Cryostorage bay did in full detail over teamspeak (possibly drunk lol). This is the reason that I asked the Cryo bay to be disabled.
Switching topics: last night, the medbay crew (Mattk50, Lomsor, Skyentist, and myself) dissected TerranAmbass and confirmed that he was in fact a human, unfortunately. I will need to read over the thread to see what we can make of this information, but we thought information would be better than nothing, so we dissected him.
And lastly:
I am repairing the Medical Bay tonight.
Little surprised it didnt go out to everyone, it makes sense considering you can have so many medics this game though. I think everyone should know that last night we dissected Terran and he turned out to be a crew member. the people who were a member of that system can corroborate that, but the system’s been damaged now and we’ve lost control.
Yesterday i said i didnt really get why terran was suspicious enough OR at least, not nearly as strong as the number of other reasons we could have lynched someone for, yesterday. I just spoke to sane, i told him personally i didn’t think a wolf would go after someone with such a weak argument just to start a bandwagon. I also talked to trevise in the medic convo about this and lomsor posted his reasoning on the thread. Cosmos im still suspicious of… but in some sense he was voting defensively, voting on the other person to defend himself.
I was going to post something different about pendrokar but i read his post quoted here and realized he’s also the last person on the security grid due to the enginish’s death:
It makes me doubt his involvement… perhaps the wolves just saw an opportunity, that does seem to be developing into a pattern this game. But, on the other hand, if both cosmos and pendrokar are wolves then we’ve lost complete control of two systems to the wolves already.
@martindevans, its kinda getting hard to follow which systems are damaged and available for repair, the 3 you listed are the newly damaged ones but it doesnt look like you’ve updated the first day post with the complete info.Like, i think we have the crew quarters left? im not sure.
It seems our Point Defense Array wasn’t much of a help last night. I guess the newly acquired Deflector shield will supplement it later, but first we will need to fix the PDA again as it got damaged in the latest bombardment.
Are we going to assign everyone back to their previous positions if they got damaged or what is the plan from now on?
While waiting for a plan I’m going to vote for my previous system too:
Point Defence Array
I forgot to comment on this, so will do so now: The deflector shield indeed reduces the chance of random damage by 50%, however I don’t know if in combination the PDA and shields stack flat for a 100% block rate, or for example, reduce by 50% then reduce that by another 50%, if you follow what I’m saying.
Well… currently I am re-reading the thread. I think the medbay is important for information gathering in the future, and since I was already a member I feel like I sort of belong to the group of it, whether martin says im kicked out or not 
Anyways, will post again soon with my thoughts and suspicious, plans, etc. As a preliminary plan though, I think for systems with significant amounts of the group remaining, those players and those players alone should repair that system. For those, like the power grid, with less than ideal population, they should be bolstered by people we think are humans.
I leave this in your thoughts for the next hour or so while I take in all 250ish posts and draw some conclusions…
In response to me offering an exchange of information with Enginish. It would appear that a wolf would HAVE to be anyone who was also in contact with Enginish and KNEW that he had refused my offer. I had offered Enginsh a striaght trade of information. I offered him info on cryo for info on security, however, he declined . This proved to me that he was human because a wolf would easily make up some lie and trick me into giving him the real info on cryo.
so now I know Enginish contacted @arkenbrian, @the_sane and @LyskTrevise about me contacting him about an information trade. Thus one of them must be a wolf attempting to frame me for playing in the shadows. @Arkenbrien 's actions in the cryo thread did seem a bit odd, but not as odd as @the_sane randomly asking to be cryoed for the night almost as if he is trying hard to look human. Then on the jump of the day spills the beans about all of this and subtly points the finger at me.
In response to @LyskTrevise I was perfectly sober when I told you that information. I have only released information that i’ve wanted people to know. You are next on my list because I know you are extremely weary of how Enginish plays the wolf game and it would only make sense that you would eliminate those who you find the most deadly early on AKA what I did to you last game. retracted this statement
I agree with this.
Point Defence Array
As for everyone else I guess a balance has to be found between acquiring even more subsystems and bolstering the existing ones.
@Cise @Krishna Neither of you voted towards the lynching yesterday… why?
Enginish dead? My system? They are after my precious system. They want to take it, why it is of no use to them… but no they still won’t have it. It is mine, all mine… I will not share herzzz(X2: The threat reference). Perhaps I don’t need to share just abandon the secret…
Well now I really fear for my life. Enginish did not make the promise of revealing the function of the Security Grid, which may be the reason wolves chose him instead of me. Also he said he would be more active starting from Night 2… yeah bit too late.
It seems if I break my promise, I will be lynched. But even if I somehow survive, then wolves will kill me believing that what I hold is very powerful.
Not sure what to do. I will PM someone I could trust to reveal the function of my system.
Also regarding my reasoning for voting against Terran. It was not only because of the “useless” post but also what he said about my accusation:
I didn’t vote for King_Cosmos and Krishna, because it seems too obvious move for wolves to make, even before they know what each does. At least I suspect they don’t.
I didn’t really know who to vote or have much information to go off of. I also didn’t really know when the day was going to end.
Well, it’s been a weird couple days, which unfortunately took a lot of my time. The highlight of which was some drunk joy-rider with a snow plow taking out half of my street’s mailboxes. Mine was completely obliterated. Yeah, fixing that was fun. 
So, since a couple systems weren’t damaged, should we distribute those extra people over to some of the ‘unclaimed’ systems, or just sit tight?
Medical Bay for now…
but i would really like to see a complete list of who has what and what’s unclaimed and everything as right now im totally confused.
That answers my question, though I would hardly say it proved anything (though his death did that fine). It sounds like a bit of a long shot at best, and it was easy to assume that you were trying to be subtle about it.
It wasn’t random. Part of the reason was because I genuinely thought I might be a target, but it was also for science. If I did get attacked then it would provide not one but three trustworthy humans. Which was worth the risk of getting myself trapped.
I made the first vote of the day in an effort to get people talking early as I was anticipating missing the second half of the day. By the time I was back home on Sunday the vote was pretty much decided. The only other people who had picked up votes were Cosmos and Krishna and I wasn’t happy with making a snap decision in an effort to lynch one of them instead.
edit: I assumed you were talking to me because I made the first vote, but rereading I see that statement was in the section to Lysk, and has since been retracted… so… whatever, I guess my point still stands though.
I had updated the first post with the status of every system but I have noticed that Discourse sometimes takes a while to actually show edits. I’ve also updated the post to separately list functional and non-functional systems. Also here’s the complete list:
Functional Systems
- Propulsion - Arkenbrien, Mattk50,
Enginish, Pendrokar - Deflector Shield - LyskTrevise, Cise, Skyentist, King_Cosmos
- Security Grid -
TerranAmbass,Enginish, Pendrokar - Cryogenic Storage - Cise, The_Sane, Arkenbrien
- Environmental Control - LucasFIN, Xamino, NobleBrutus, Lomsor, Krishna
Damaged Systems
- Power Grid - Damaged
- Structural Integrity Field - Damaged
- Point Defence Array - Damaged
- Medical Bay - Damaged
- Crew Quarters - Damaged
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I was 100% voting defensively. I even said I had no real suspects at the time and only voted for Terran to save myself.
On the topic of repairing subsystems, I believe it is best for each person to return to their initally assigned subsystem. Although, I would like to use this opportunity to offer to for me to be taken off Power Grid. I got on there by accident and I can stay off it if we agree that’s best. My accident aside, Power Grid is too powerful to be left alone. I believe it needs at least 4 people so if someone gets lynched then there is still a 2/3 majority. I think Krishna will agree with this.
Lastly, I have a few questions, does any subsystem in use thus far besides medic have an alignment scan? Do we suspect any of them do? perhaps crew quarters?
Did Martin say the wolfs can independently sabotage subsystems at night? I feel like I remember reading that but I can’t find it. At this point I can’t even remember if that’s a real thing or if I’m being paranoid. Does anyone suspect foul play at work regarding the damaged subsystems?
Man. That was a lot of reading. I’m going to post my notes in this paste-bin for anyone else to read, I dont want to take up space in thread with it. Its quite long, but much briefer than the thread i assure you, and i hope you find it useful:
Link to Notes
First of all, I want to say this: I think Skyentist, Sane, Matt, Noble, Terran, Topper, Lucas, Cosmos, Cybercritic and Enginish are all humans. Unfortunately, because of the information overload, I have now voted for and lynched two of those people, along with you all… Also, if you guys arent human, then you are playing extremely well, and screw you, you bastards. My reasoning for this is based on their posts and strictly my opinion of how “human-ey” their posts seemed to me.
Also, two of those are now murdered, but only enginish would have been on that list without having been killed. Cyber was too quiet for my tastes, and never really contributed. Makes me wonder why he was killed.
On to my suspects, which obviously is everyone I didnt name:
Cise
Arkenbrien
Pendrokar
Krishna
Xamino
As Enginish did, I am again working under the assumption that there are four wolves this game, as last game, and this fits nicely with my suspects, as I dont think we have killed any wolves yet, and I’m fairly certain that either Pendrokar or Xamino is a human, but I cant decide which it is.
Krishna has simply not contributed anything at all to the game, I mean literally nothing. Not even one post has been constructive to our discussions, and he seems to only respond when pressured, yet is following the game actively. Krishna also voted for both Topper and Cosmos, as a note.
Arkenbrien is hard to nail down in any wolf game because of his behavior, but I have to say he has not really contributed much either. He made a few posts on day one about what to repair, but they raised my suspicions on him more than anything, along with Cise. He then made a really suspicious move when he voted to repair the security grid, saying “I am repairing the security grid with cise”. Ark has claimed he has been busy with Homeworld, similar to Lomsor, but I feel like although Lomsor’s posts arent as detailed, they say far more about him and his thoughts than Ark’s do (I also have talked with Lomsor in the MedBay topic). I feel like Ark’s one semi-human-ey post came at the end of day two, but even then it just speculated about wild theories why Cosmos and Noble both made mistakes, and speculated about xamino as well.
Cise so far today has accused me (a known human to me!) and Sane (who I think is almost certainly a human). Cise has been provoking my suspicions since he posted in response to Topper, surprisingly he wasnt exactly on my radar at the beginning of the game as he usually is due to his analysis of the repair situation, however he has since thrown all that away. If you look back at the posts, the important contributions and ideas to the thread he has made is not very high, although as I said he had one decent post at the beginning of the game talking about structural integrity of the ship. His Popsicle offer at the end of day two was extremely suspicious, and he openly betrayed his group’s planned secrecy behind closed doors. He has tried to extract information from now-confirmed human Enginish at the expense of people I consider humans, and seemingly hasn’t put a lot of thought into the reasons he has given, or perhaps into his actions themselves.
Now for the two harder ones:
Xamino is tough, on the one hand, he has had a fundamental role in our random repair system (possibly compromised if he is a wolf?), but at first openly disagreed with Noble’s plan from the beginning, stating that pairs would be better still, despite discussions earlier in the thread about the very topic, with the conclusion being that pairs would be too easy for wolves to manipulate. The icing on the cake is the failed lynch compensate. If it was on purpose, why? For what gain? Possibly to take attention off of another wolf that might be accused? I am just speculating, it is really confusing, and of course could simply be an accident as claimed. Other than helping with the crypto-wizardry, he hasn’t really done much for the group, and has largely remained out of the conversation except to vote, voting for Krishna on day two and Skyentist on day one. The vote on Krishna I feel like was not really expected to be menacing, as he was the first to vote for Krishna, so if they are both wolves, it may simply be a way to cover up ties between them.
Pendrokar has certainly been more vocal than Xamino, thats for sure, but as others have pointed out his behavior this game is markedly different than his other games. On top of that, we all know he is a sneaky bastard, and that is the truth. Human or wolf, you know right now there is some shenanigans brewing in the security room. Pendrokar was one of the first to speak up about the possible uses of the systems, contributing greatly in that discussion on day one, which leads me to believe that he is of these two the more likely to be a human. On day one he voted for Krishna in order to pressure him to participate a bit, but was quiet for the rest of the day. On day two he started the band wagon on terran, a confirmed human now, after the sane first accused him. Pendrokar’s reasoning was that Terran had not contributed enough to the conversation, and I have to admit that even I (which is why i voted for him) was suspicious of Terran’s lack of contribution to the thread. He also brought up the point that the security grid would be down to two people if Terran was lynched, something a wolf probably would not do (they would rather leave it out of their post and hope no one noticed). I think, for now, that the wolves are trying to frame pendrokar, which is why Enginish was killed.
…Thoughts? Anyone?
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