Damage to asteroids

The ring rocks of saturn are mostly between 1 cm and 10 meters big, how would be need such a powerful weapons to destroy such little rocks?
First you school people on the science stuff and now you are confusing these things yourself.

There are, but those things aren’t asteroids. I know it sounds like I’m being pedantic here, but I’m seriously not saying “blowing things up is unrealistic”.

Ok, but what kind of game? Because the community surrounding Infinity has been fairly long standing, and there are segments of it that want to see the environment more tightly based in reality than others. Guess which segment I belong to?

Sorry, but I disagree that nobody here really cares about the distinction. I, for one, am a body here. And there are others. I’m sorry we disagree on what’s worth caring about.

Also, I haven’t shit on anybody’s opinion. I haven’t said boo about anyone saying “X would be awesome” or “I really enjoy Y”. I said “destroying asteroids is immersion breaking once you know how big an asteroid is” and “icy objects less than a metre across aren’t asteroids”. The former is, at worst, a contrary opinion (and I’m very sorry to Zen if s/he felt I was attempting to belittle them; it wasn’t my intent); the latter is a statement of fact about a categorical error.

I can’t comment on what I haven’t seen. Sorry, but I don’t usually watch posted videos, and I, at best, skim and scan posts that don’t catch my attention. Believe it or not, I don’t hang around here to play gotcha.

So you said, but that actually isn’t obvious in anything that I read. Maybe it was because, I don’t know, everyone’s calling these things one thing when they’re something completely different? If everyone’s talking about Bob all night long, I’m sure you can excuse someone when they poke their head up to say “wait, are you talking about Bruce?” Not get all “no one here cares about the difference between Bob and Bruce”.

I did. Please, remind me what the “science” in “science fiction” is referring to.

You’re using that word “obviously” again when it, very clearly, wasn’t obvious.

I still don’t see what the rings of Saturn have to do with anything. Most of the ring objects visible in the tech demo are larger than the Hellion, which makes them asteroids, which makes everything I’ve said valid.

Plus, I’ve already said you can blow up your soccer ball sized chunks of ice without any issue from me.

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here the link one of developer in steam http://steamcommunity.com/id/rockfishgames

Yes like I repeatetly said, people don’t always use these terms correctly. We are not using the term correctly I thought this was already established knowledge. The comment you are responding to here also didn’t feature any mentions of asteroids and instead called the particles ring rocks.

From Wikepedia:
Science fiction is a genre of speculative fiction dealing with imaginative concepts such as futuristic settings, futuristic science and technology, space travel, time travel, faster than light travel, parallel universes and extraterrestrial life. Science fiction often explores the potential consequences of scientific and other innovations, and has been called a “literature of ideas.”[1] It usually eschews the supernatural, and unlike the related genre of fantasy, historically science fiction stories were intended to have at least a faint grounding in science-based fact or theory at the time the story was created, but this connection has become tenuous or non-existent in much of science fiction

The ring objects in the tech demo are very much smaller than asteroids since planetary rings don’t consist of asteroids, they don’t even consist of meteroids. Asteroids and meteroids are names for bodies that orbit the star, they have nothing to do with rings, only in the sense that rings partly consist of matter from asteroids or meteroids.
If you feel the need to be scientifically correct at least do that and don’t write wildly inaccurate explainations of scientific terms.
I thought you are an expert, how can you not know that?
The devs showed a separate video of their first implementation of a procedually generated asteroid, again nobody was talking about that one.

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I like the idea of being able to play with and blast away small space rocks, and to blast small bits out of large and very massive asteroids. Play with, as in affect their orbits and trajectories. If it can be done, cool.

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Couldn’t agree more. Moreover, I did not stipulate meteorites would be a minimum of 1km which of course would be very difficult to destroy…but not out of the realm of impossibility, especially in a science fiction game. In truth I was thinking in terms of small asteroids no bigger than 20~30 meters and probably should have stated as much. That said, I think the ‘only because you don’t know anything about asteroids’ was a bit caustic. What’s more, I did not come here to play Second Life in space. So my advise to Kiche would be to bring it down a notch.

Anyway, time to get back on topic…

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Yes, Thanks!

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I wonder if their’s some type of asteroid or whatever that’s basically a hard outer crust with a gaseous interior. Because that would be hilarious naturally made gigantic grenades.

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That would be cool! Could make for an interesting mining mechanic as well. :slightly_smiling:

“Why the hell are the asteroids out there exploding with the slightest touch?”
“Oh, you see, we have discovered that through some strange geological process, these giant geodes are created, filled with crystals. Overtime, the crystals harden into ultra-sharp harder-than-steel shrapnel, while at the same time releasing large amounts of a liquid that becomes highly unstable when combined with the gas inside the geode. The giant geodes are launched into space by supervolcano eruptions that over millennia have formed a small asteroid belt. And… Why are you looking at me like that? You don’t believe me? It’s all totally plausible I tell you!”
“Don’t listen to Crazy Joe. He has no idea what’s going on here. He’s just the station idiot. I’m the one you should really come to for information. For you see, I know the truth. Those asteroids used to be normal… But every night, vile aliens come and fill them up with gas! They plan to steal our asteroids and sell them as balloons! They’re coming for them I tell you!”
“Don’t listen to them! They’re all idiots! I know the true truth about the exploding space asteroids. You see, they were mining fuel down there, on the planet. And you know how they have those ‘do not smoke signs’ near fuel? Well, someone decided to ignore them and smoke anyway. And then half the planet exploded, sending all the rocks with all the fuel up here. That’s how it really happened.”
“Fine, fine, whatever. I don’t care why there are exploding asteroids up here. The real reason I came into this bar is because I wanted to know… Why the hell did you build an asteroid base on an exploding asteroid on an exploding asteroid belt that’s one chain reaction away from becoming dust? What kind of idiot would do that?”
“…”
“Oh, I get it. You’re all idiots.”
“Not as idiotic as someone landing on an asteroid base they knew was about to explode to find the idiots living there.”

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And I didn’t come here to play Asteroids?

Not naturally forming, no. Even if they could form somehow, they wouldn’t be gravitationally stable, and would collapse in on themselves with even relatively slight interactions with other celestial objects.

Basically, the crust would want to sink to the centre.

Yeah, I kinda figured. But hilarious thought nonetheless.

Remember when the earth was flat? When the sun orbited the earth? When we were the only planet in this immense galaxy and life spreading among the stars impossible? But now Panspermia is a very real possibility. Despite Kichae, expertise on asteroids and his many years of qualified blogging, I think it’s always best to keep an open mind…the universe is simply too vast to make presumptions. There may very well be asteroids out there containing gas…we just haven’t found them.

I guess you didn’t notice the planets, space station and spaceships shooting one another in the Kickstarter. lol.

But here’s a solution, since you ‘didn’t come here to play Asteroids’ - don’t go to asteroids. Or perhaps I-Novae can make you your own private asteroid belt where everything is static and massive and nothing ever happens; you can sit there for hours staring at them…good times!

Remember when we disproved gravity?

No?

Look, believe what you want, but just remember: A) They didn’t actually laugh at Einstein, B) they didn’t actually laugh at Galileo, but C) they did laugh at Bozo. Not knowing everything isn’t the same as knowing nothing, and choosing to believe that the gaps hide everything you could imagine doesn’t mean they do.

Excuse me? I’ve never done any blogging. I’ve done a ton of legitimate academic study, though.

False dichotomize much? Not being able to blow up the giant space rocks isn’t the same thing as having everything “static”. A lot of things can happen in an asteroid field that doesn’t involve blowing up the inanimate objects.

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Anyone who went to university has done legitimate academic study. And given you are entirely unaware that Galileo was imprisoned for his theories leads me to question whether you have even received basic education.

Can you all please calm down in this thread.

I sense a lot of hostility in here. We don’t need to start writing in subtext.

Everyone has his own opinion. People can be wrong or right. Ideas aren’t invalid because they aren’t realistic or casual enough and misunderstandings happen because of different use of language.

I don’t think anyone wanted to disrespect anyone else. Counter-attacking, be it directly or in subtext isn’t needed.

I’m okay when people express their opinions of other peoples actions be it a recent instance or trend, even if it’s off topic as there isn’t really anywhere else room for that, but it has to be, and can be, a constructive discussion.

This thread started off pretty reasonably but is escalating into, what I think, people having the impression of being themselves, or their opinion, personally disqualified for not conforming. This isn’t the case. It’s just people with different world views.


Personally I do care for all opinions, even if I don’t like them and even if they indicate wrong or are themselves wrong.

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You know I would like that very much and am trying to do just that…but when someone jumps on the forums and tries to make out like they are an expert with a ‘ton of legitimate academic study’ yet doesn’t know Galileo was incarcerated for the rest of his life for his beliefs (bet he wished he was simply laughed at), then I think we need to nip this ignorance in the bud; that and believing that one type of gameplay is the only type of gameplay owing to a very dubious understanding of science.

Ok, let me be more specific. I’ve done legitimate academic study in astronomy, and I currently work as a professional astronomer.

You think I’m unaware that Galileo was imprisoned? Cute.

Or maybe that never happened because “remember when the Earth was flat?” :pensive:

Well, being called moronic, closed minded, and having your education and career crapped upon and openly denied I think goes a little beyond “for not conforming”.

I mean, seriously, I’m the condescending one?

Bullshit.

I didn’t say one type of gameplay is the only type of gameplay, but I will be damned if I’m not going to advocate for my preferred style of gameplay.

You keep firing shots.

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Given you are wholly unaware that Galileo was not merely laughed at but imprisoned leads me to conclude you are lying. Either that or you are unqualified in your field. Anyway, I am done…never argue with a fool because onlookers may not be able to tell the difference.