If I didn’t know Derek Smart, And he asked me for money, I would try to find out who he is. After a few researches, I would not give him a penny.
I saw what Chris Roberts is capable of, comparing to DS, and I know that if somebody can build this game, he’s the most credible person for that. So, yeah, I trust him. And again, you didn’t buy a product, you helped funding a project that could be unsuccessful.
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Oh I trust him to get it finished, the question is when. 
Hope for the best with the project either way, I’ve got an aurora waiting.
You say DS has an agenda? How many none Star Citizen posts have you made here? only 1 out of all your posts. Thanks for stopping by and supporting Infinity.
Then CR should stop saying the game is funded. And maybe reduce the features he aims to deliver to match the amount of money they have to spend.
Obviously, but if you budget on the assumption that everything is going to work fine in the first instance even though you know your engine isn’t fit for purpose so you need to hire the people who made it to have them rip it up, rebuild it, then debug the inevitable issues that come with doing a massive refactor, you’re a fucking moron and you have no business running a company asking people for money. The bigger the risk you’re undertaking, the more of a buffer you need to build in your budget.
And that’s before you even consider the maintenance costs that still need to be paid once the game is complete in bug fixes, server maintenance and gameplay balancing. Though it seems pointless to sweat too much on that point given there seems to be no clear sign of an end product in sight.
The thing is, Smart actually has some experience in building these kinds of large-scale games. I mean, Smart’s games are generally terrible to play, but I think he understands the problem a lot better than people think. He’d do better to focus more on that than CIG’s business practices. If it weren’t for Smart’s history in the genre I’d be dismissing the rest of his bullshit along with everyone else, but I still wouldn’t be suckling on CIG’s teats either.
No, it’s a lot more like watching someone try to nail a trick on their first attempt despite everyone else you’ve ever seen failing to do so. There may be a glimmer of hope, but there’s a hell of a lot more doubt until you see the parts of the trick start to come together.
What is he capable of? He had some successes with Wing Commander, but Freelancer wouldn’t have seen the light of day without MGS intervening, and it still fell short of the hype. In fact, I’d almost blame CR for setting such high expectations for the genre and practically killing it off for several years.
Well, no. I funded SC with the explicit expectation that my funding would result in some kind of finished product, albeit not necessarily what I expected at the time of backing. I funded SC with the expectation that said funding would be used responsibly.
I agree. As far as I’m concerned, DS and CR both spew BS. But they also hit the mark sometimes. Problem is SC fanboys and haters get so blinded they can’t see it. For example:
I haven’t heard a lot of negativity towards Infinity or Elite Dangerous but Memnock would have us believe DS has it out for all developers. Does DS go over the top - absolutely. But does CR mislead people through intent or incompetence? No question.
Yeah, you are right. I have made a total of 10 posts on the iNovae-forum (now 11), 9 of them about Star Citizen (now 10).
The only other post was made two years ago stating that
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You have made 136 posts on Star Citizen here instead. What does that mean in your world?
You’ll give yourself a conniption. Don’t try and understand Zen’s world, for both your sakes.
*& @Zen, you need to relax, at this point if it fails it fails, you’ll just have to wait and see.
The last time I posted on SC forums was at least a year ago…after my refund so have no idea what you are talking about.
So until then I should just not offer an opinion…spoken like a true fanboy. And I have to say, I’m very disappointed in your trolling, thought you were rising above that but I see you are not.
I think you merely misread.
You attacked me for making 9 out of my 10 posts in this Star Citizen thread on inovaestudios.
I pointed out that you made 136 posts in this same thread. Here, not over at SC forums. Thinking about it, you are about 13% of this thread.
There’s a difference between expressing opinions about star-citizen and insinuating that another forum member is only here to plug a different game. I’m just saying it might be an idea to stop following SC so closely if it’s making you stressed out.
You’re still accusing me of being an SC ‘fanboy’, which is just hilarious.
Ah, I see…but you are missing the point. I don’t go anywhere else and ONLY post about infinity…that would be disingenuous and in my opinion rude. What’s more I have 835 posts created here so I’m not here to simply piss off SC fanboys - they do that on their own.
The fact you get so stressed that you have to resort to trolling for SC suggests otherwise.
And I haven’t followed Infinity for 10 years to wait and now shill for Star Citizen, as you seem to be subtly but continuously suggesting. I just prefer reading over posting, at least most of the time.
SC will be a living game, with probably the most important content delivery after a 1.0 release. I think a lot of what CR aims to deliver is supposed to come after the 1.0 flag, during the “10 years of content update”.
As for the funding, when SQ42 will be released, I think SC will be fully funded. I bet that SQ42 will be a huge success, that will propulse SC funding and enthousiasm. I just hope it will be released in the end of 2017, at least, to close the mouth of DS for a moment.
You don’t consider time in your analysis. Think about the context of how the campaign evolved, and you’ll be more comprehensive. I bet that, even if from what I read you seem to understand very well the difficulty of building a game and a game company, you would not have been able to do what has been done from now with CIG and SC/SQ42, nor DS. This is why I say it is easy to criticize.
A lot of horrible experiences (everything DS says on SC is wrong but true for its own games :D) doesn’t make you someone experimented on state-of-the-art development. His games are the perfect example that he just understand nothing about game development. Compare his best game to the first Wing Commander is just an insult for WC.
CR is not a beginner. He’s a pioneer of space game genre.
Some success ? The first Wing Commander is a fucking master piece, that inspired so many games. He was so in advance for its time. Nothing comparable with DS pseudo games.
And you have no reason to consider, for the moment, that CIG has failed to do so. SC will be delivered in 2020, but it will be delivered. 
And I would be curious to see how you prove me that the funding has not been used responsibly…
Zen, I love you, but you’re one of the worst people to get into an argument about SC with, I mean look at us both right now. I wanted to save you both from that.
And @Zen just stop saying to everybody that they are SC fanboys when they just disagree with you. The last video of SC you watched was probably a year ago, you refuse to update yourself on it, you refuse to agree on obvious good points SC can pretend to have right now, and when somebody else (like me) defends SC against your biased args you come with your “SC fanboy arg”. Impossible to discuss properly…
Seriously, I think I totally get what drove you here : You were complaining about SC,etc on SC forums, then people with the same level of args than you today came to insult you, then you rejected the fault on RSI, asked for a refund, kept reading always more of DS shits, and then came on this thread to explain to everybody why SC is the last weapon of evil etc… I should probably reject the fault on INovae and go on SC forums to explain why I:B will never been released… 
Hmmmm…that’s interesting, I don’t call JonnyRedHed a fanboy despite the fact he is the biggest poster of SC showcase videos. That’s probably because he also isn’t afraid to question which I assume is why he posts the occasional DS comments or bug laden videos. I don’t call Topperfalkon a fanboy though he is a supporter of SC; he seems to take both positive and negative views into account. And there are a few others I wouldn’t call fanboys so your accusation of me resorting to 'SC fanboy arg’ is, well, dishonest. But I imagine that dishonesty extends from the fact you are obsessed with Star Citizen - and obsession often leads to fanboy behavior…which is clearly the case here.
What you don’t understand is it’s ok to get in an argument - about anything - as long as you keep it respectful. But if you are going to start trolling and throwing insults, it never ends well.